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Jak trzeba si\u0119 zaprezentowa\u0107, \u017ceby taki casting wygra\u0107? My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce ca\u0142y czas poszukujemy tej odpowiedzi, chocia\u017c nie wiadomo, czy ta odpowied\u017a istnieje<\/p>\n<p><strong>Helena Rz\u0105sa:<\/strong> Istnieje takie przekonanie, \u017ce rzeczywi\u015bcie jest jaka\u015b regu\u0142a, \u017ce jest jaka\u015b metoda na to, \u017ceby wygra\u0107 casting, ale prawd\u0105 jest, \u017ce w wi\u0119kszo\u015bci przypadk\u00f3w nie jest to do ko\u0144ca od nas zale\u017cne. Szczeg\u00f3lnie w produkcjach filmowych oraz w serialach. S\u0105 poszukiwane konkretne osoby do konkretnych r\u00f3l i tak naprawd\u0119 liczy si\u0119 bardziej nasza energia, to jacy jeste\u015bmy, no i czy rzeczywi\u015bcie pasujemy do scenariusza i czy pasujemy wed\u0142ug re\u017cysera castingu oraz samego re\u017cysera. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce idealna prezentacja nie istnieje, warto jest po prostu by\u0107 sob\u0105 za ka\u017cdym razem.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Iga Szubelak:<\/strong> And that is why we, being ourselves, invite everyone to the premiere of our diploma. We hope that it is this energy and what we are trying, what we are doing by being ourselves in different assumed circumstances, that will attract the audience to come into this world with us for a while and take a half-joking, half-serious look at what is going on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Helena Rz\u0105sa:<\/strong> To experience it with us, to be part of it, to be swept away. In our show, we invite the audience to judge us and we judge maybe a little bit of the audience at a certain point. We change roles, we judge each other, which gives us the opportunity to look at this casting from a broader perspective and dismantle it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Iga Szubelak:<\/strong> Using Hamlet as an example, as each of us will present our Hamlet.<br \/>I don't know if there's anything more I can say, but I hope this is good encouragement.<br \/>Helena Rz\u0105sa: Nasz casting prowadzony b\u0119dzie na tle s\u0142ynnego monologu szekspirowskiego \u201eBy\u0107 albo nie by\u0107\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>To be or not to be at the casting. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Iga Szubelak:<\/strong> Yes, there are very many such connections here. That is why we have just taken to 'Hamlet'.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What is it like at the casting? I would like to learn a little bit from you. I know Helena that you are a mountaineer, you do mountain climbing, skiing, you are a ski instructor. I also know that in 2017, so still three years before you entered the Theatre Academy, you performed on the stage of the St. I. Witkiewicz Theatre in Zakopane. Witkiewicz in Witold Gombrowicz's \"Operetka\" directed by Andrzej St. Dziuk. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Helena Rz\u0105sa:<\/strong> Yes, I am a mountaineer and indeed it was at the Witkacy Theatre in Zakopane that I took my first stage steps.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did you get there?\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Helena Rz\u0105sa:<\/strong> In Zakopane I attended a theatre club run by Emilia Nag\u00f3rka. When the casting for the role of the thief was announced, I applied. They were looking for a boy of 18, it was such an idea for the role, and me being 15 and a bald girl at the time, I decided to give it a try. Additionally, I was encouraged to audition by my first teacher, who is a theatre actress. I won and that's how it all started. I then had the opportunity to see how such a performance is created and what it entails. And I think it really somehow encouraged me to explore the art of theatre further.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You Igo, despite still being a student, are already starring in a repertory production at the Wsp\u00f3\u0142czesny Theatre in Warsaw: \"Dolce Vita\", directed by Marcin Hycnar. Was there a casting call?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Iga Szubelak:<\/strong> No, there was no casting. I just happened to be helped by luck and a very fortuitous coincidence. We had a class with Professor Marcin Hycnar, who, after the exam - I think it was a month at the time - invited me to play in a production of Dolce Vita. It was a huge shock for me. I never thought that I would be able to have my theatre debut already in my third year. It was and still is a very interesting adventure because I can see what this theatre world looks like from the inside. It turned out that it's not so scary at all, because I have the luck and pleasure to play with wonderful actresses and actors.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And be with the audience. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Iga Szubelak<\/strong>: Tak by\u0107 z publiczno\u015bci\u0105, co na pocz\u0105tku by\u0142o ogromnie stresuj\u0105ce. Ciekawe jest obserwowanie, jak bardzo ka\u017cdy spektakl si\u0119 zmienia w zale\u017cno\u015bci od tego, jacy s\u0105 widzowie i jak reaguj\u0105.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What kind of journey did you go through at the school itself? Surely you had intermediate, inter-semester exams? What experiences have you gained? \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Helena Rz\u0105sa:<\/strong> We are quite an interesting year of this school, because we happened to have a pandemic in our first year. That's why our education was a bit shortened, a bit hampered. Then there was the war in Ukraine and somewhere it all got in the way. But I still feel that we got a lot out of this experience. To be honest, I think I learned something from every professor. From Professor Jan Englert, and Professor Olga Sawicka, and in my case also from our tutor, Dean Marcin Perchut, but also from the rector, Wojciech Malajkat. From everyone I got something, some kind of treasure. I have the impression that acting is not a science from cover to cover. Now I suddenly hear it somewhere and it's all wrapped up for me.<\/p>\n<p><strong> Iga Szubelak:<\/strong> I tried twice to get into drama school, the second time I succeeded Really it's that from every professor we got some part, some weapon that we can use later on. I also think acting school, teaches you to be comfortable with yourself at a certain point. It got to me when I just had the individual mode in my third year, then when I attended rehearsals at the Contemporary Theatre, that I really learnt a lot of things in that school, but most of all I learnt myself.<\/p>\n<p><strong> There are 17 students in the drama theatre acting course. There are 7 participants in the play \"Casting\". Does that mean you won the casting?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Helena Rz\u0105sa:<\/strong> The funny thing is that all the time, somewhere in the back of your mind, it's a casting. This diploma is not such a first-rate performance, but the diploma itself has a casting function, when we leave the school, and it is the casting directors, directors, directors, people from the community who come to watch us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Iga Szubelak:<\/strong> Helka you have summed it up perfectly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And what is the selection of the graduation performance itself like? How did it happen that exactly this performance entered the graduation repertory of your year? \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Helena Rz\u0105sa<\/strong>: Pomys\u0142 nie wyszed\u0142 od nas, a od re\u017cyser\u00f3w.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Iga Szubelak:<\/strong> Agnes and Matthew came with a casting idea. We trusted them and went into it all together.<\/p>\n<p><strong> Helena Rz\u0105sa:<\/strong> Our biggest fears were at the beginning. We didn't really want it to be a show about us, so that it wasn't just about problems from the theatre world. But we understood that the phenomenon of selection is very universal.<\/p>\n<p><strong> Iga Szubelak<\/strong>: Tak, to jest zjawisko, kt\u00f3re dla obu stron: i dla castingowanych, i dla castinguj\u0105cych bywa trudne i czasem warto si\u0119 po prostu z czego\u015b po\u015bmia\u0107. Jak nie wiemy, co zrobi\u0107, to mo\u017ce si\u0119 chwil\u0119 wszyscy razem po\u015bmiejmy.<\/p>\n<p><strong> Helena Rz\u0105sa<\/strong>: Tak tu rozbieramy casting na czynniki pierwsze. 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Proces, przez kt\u00f3ry przeszli\u015bmy z Mateuszem i z Agnieszk\u0105, to chyba najcenniejsza rzecz, jak\u0105 do tej pory mog\u0142am prze\u017cy\u0107. Zaufali\u015bmy sobie i z wielkim u\u015bmiechem na twarzy codziennie poddawali\u015bmy si\u0119 improwizacjom. Wchodzili\u015bmy po prostu tak g\u0142\u0119boko, jak tylko mogli\u015bmy, z pe\u0142nym zaanga\u017cowaniem.<\/p>\n<p><strong> It is time to invite the audience to this performance. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Iga Szubelak<\/strong>: Serdecznie zapraszamy naprawd\u0119 wszystkich na nasz spektakl dyplomowy pod tytu\u0142em CASTING.<\/p>\n<p><strong> Helena Rz\u0105s<\/strong>a: Tak, to jest wieczny casting. Mo\u017cecie wygra\u0107 casting. 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